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Winches: Ramsey, Warn, Superwinch, Milemarker, any others? Lets face it, there are alot of brands of winches out there but what is the best kind of winch to get and what are all the guidelines for purchasing a winch?

Obvious: Buy a winch that can handle the weight of your car. But what else?
 

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i think you want a winch that is about 1.5 times the weight of your rig. then theres the old debate of electric or hydraulic. make that decision first. ive got 2 bets to place... biginuf -> hydraulic...JasonB -> electric. :): right?
 

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You need to consider power (electric or hydraulic) and your rigs ability to provide it, cable speed, amount of cable, vehicle weight and typical terrain, power in/out or just power in, worm or planetary drive to name a few.

Hydraulic: Needs engine to be running, 100% duty cycle on the winch, power steering fluid gets hot and breaks down if not cooled properly, strong consistent pull, requires power steering pump capable of 1500 psi at 3.5 gpm to get best performance from winch

Electric: really should have second battery, ability to swap batteries with buddy if yours dies, not 100% duty cycle (they get hot), much faster than hydraulic, engine does not need to be running, has selenoids to burn out and need replacement on occasion, not always 100% waterproof, easier install

Cable Speed: faster the speed, faster you get unloaded cable in and out, cable speed tends to go down as winch capacity goes up

Amount of cable: more cable, fewer pulls if have a long way to go, longer cable means smaller cable and lower capacity, longer cable means more cable on the drum so capacity goes down even more on short pulls

Vehicle weight and terrain: 1.5-2.0 times your vehicle weight. On rocks and basic trails 1.5 or even slightly less can be okay, for mud the more the better since it creates suction that can be difficult to overcome.

Power in/out: nice to speed along freespool where you do not have to use the extra energy to unspool the cable

Drive type: worm drives are stronger but the braking ability of a plentary is better I beleive just by its design, planetary is larger but more gear reduction is available

That help? For your S-10 Blazer, I'd look into 8-9000 lb electric and a separate Optima yellow top to run it.

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The hydraulics and electrics both have ups/downs:

Hydraulics:
  • Engine must be running to use
  • no duty cycle
  • tremendous torque
  • Hard to locate front/rear


Electrics
  • Engine doesn't need to be running, but will quickly drain a battery (better run a dual-battery setup if you want to do use it while not running).
  • 15-25% duty cycle (on for 5 minutes, off for 15, or you'll melt the motor).
  • Tend to be faster, torque is limited mainly by how much electricity you can get to it.
  • relocation is easy, Warn makes cables with quick-disconnects for doing this.


Personally, I'm planning on a Warn m12000 or m15000 for my truck. Both are well over the 1.5x minimum for my 5-6,000 lb truck.

Also, I'm more comfortable working on electrical stuff than hydraulic, so that biases me as well.

But one nice thing about an electric is that you can keep a spare battery, and setup disconnects so that if you REALLY need to use it, it's available, engine running or no, and even after you've wasted your stock batteries...
 

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depends on what you are going to use it for.

i use mine to move more fallen trees than stuck trucks...

warn 8000 worm drive.. works good for me.
 

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Ive never been in so much trouble that my truck wouldnt start, so when it was time for a winch my decision was easy. Milemarker 12,000 lbs 2-speed winch, at high speed it spools cable as fast as the old warn 8274 on the low speed it is about as fast as the warn 12k or 15k, its lighter that the big warns, it only pulls 2 amps compared to the electric 400-500 amps at max load, and like everyone else said, you can run it nonstop. It is sweet, check out a milemarker in action and youll love it, come over and ill give you a demonstration.
 

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Biginuf has the ticket... thats the way I would go.. with the mile marker.. you cant beat the price either.
 

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Oh yeah thanks unclemark, I forgot to mention that I paid 1050.00 for my 12,000 Milemarker and that included the hose kit and everything . The Warn 12K is about 1175.00 and the warn 15k is about 1300.00. And warn doesnt give you a free hat like milemarker either, thats what really swung me, the hat is killer. :):
 

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Yeah well big, maybe this weekend I'll just drive on over to VA from KS for that demo! :D: j/k

Thanks a lot for all the info everyone. How hard is it for someone with limited mechanical ability to install a milemarker winch?

Jason, that really does help and thanks a lot for the suggestion. It usually helps to make someones mind up if somebody else throws out a suggestion.
 

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Easy. It's four bolts on the winch (have a friend help you the winch is hard to hold with one hand) then the battery cable and a ground.
 

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I think it is fairly easy, youll need somebody to help you lift it. I did it by myself in about 3 hours, but now that i know what it looks like, i could give you a few pics that would cut your time in half, the diagram was'nt making much sense to me, but i eventually got it. let me know if you get one and ill email you some photos.
 

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Ive dated a couple of winches ooops I mena Wenches... lolol But none of the were 1.5 times my size. Well at least not that I can remember.
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And even if they were 1.5 times my size and I did remember I was obviously delerious and or drunk and would never tell a soul!
 

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Mile Marker makes a awesome winch that is not that hard to install, in some cases lighter than a warn and it can be used under water. I like the mile marker, it seams alot sronger. A 9000 pound mile marker would be a good choice.
 

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ive got a warn hs9500i........its been good so far.......several pulls.......need new cable now.......but as long as u keep the truck running ull be alright and not run ur battery down......the only thing i dont like about mine......is that when ur freespooling.........the spool spins too damn fast and u get alot of cable coming off......so u might as well jerk it all off and rewind it......or else u WILL mess up ur cable
 

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Something to add to this string, not even hydraulic/electric related (although the electrics are easier to get connections for). If you are planning to only use your winch every now and again, consider a reciever mount. I have a 9000 Ramsey Pro-Plus mounted on one...can hook it into either end (front or back) to pull yourself back out of a bad situation. And if you are like me, you don't want a winch hanging off your truck all the time (winches add a lot of weight to your truck...even at only 100 pounds), you can pull it and put it in the bed...out of sight out of mind and not in the way if you tag something (a ford escort comes to mind!).

I made a custom mount in the bed to lock it to to prevent theft and it coming through the back window! Some people believe they are weaker, which, yeah they probably are mount-wise, but I haven't ripped mine off yet and I have stalled the winch several times.

I have had my winch setup for about 4 years...I use it more for housework than for pulling the truck out of a stuck. I have used it though and they will pay for themselves the first time you put it to use.

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Milemarker sells a quick disconnect kit as well, but you can probably make one cheaper by just buying hoses and fittings from a HD truck repair shop.
 
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