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The IL goverment in my opinion has to be the biggest bunch of cheap a$$ mofo's around. We started off with pay tolls at 40 cents. Then IPass which is a device that is senced by the toll plaza and charges to a account(making toll time shorter). And afterwards they went to 80cents for people who don't have IPass. and 40 who do.

So on this stretch of road 60 miles long between wisconsin and my house there are 4 toll plazas. One of them has become such a problem that getting from my house past it which is about 20 miles takes well over 45 mins during rush hour.(They widened the lanes after the plaza and before... Great still doesn't fix anything) All this traffic is due to this toll plaza. And today at the boarder they started to work on one of them.. It caused a 15 mile back up that took us over an hour to get through. All because of the stupid government is soo cheap that they can't raise the price of gas by 5 cents and get rid of these pointless traffic jam causing disasters.

And even better if any of you have ever seen our toll plazas there is about a 100 yard wide spot where 2 lanes of traffic have to merge into the gates. Now half the people forget that they have IPass and end up having to get through all the lanes to the IPass lanes meanwhile the other half forget they don't and have to go to the otherside, causeing chaos and traffic.

Illnois government AHAA we have an idea we will make speed passes where IPass users can totally avoid the toll booth and go through at normal highway speeds and still get charged on their IPass. And to make stuff even better instead of making these lanes a mile or half a mile back so people can merge into them and can avoid the traffic we will make the 200yrds back from the booths... ??? Where is the sence it that?? Sure you will have the speed lanes but no one will use them cuase they won't have enough time to get into them.

Sorry for vent but I couldn't stand that our usual under 3 hours trip took over 4 today to get back from our summer house.

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you do realize that the Tolls on 294 were only meany originally when the sold the idea to the public to just fund the cost of construction and then be removed right?

that was i believe 20 years ago.

i believe that the Feds should make it illegal to have tollboths, just think of all the energy that could be saved from not having to go from 65mph to zero to 65mph again, or as you found out, sitting there and idling.

i love when the idiots do the 6+ lanes of tollboths into 1 lane, immediately after the toll plaza.

if im coming from Indiana for some reason on 294, i would rather get off at 127th st. and take the side streets home then to give them another 40 cents to get off at 95th st. which is only like 5 minutes from my house.


i fell your pain.
 
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where is it 80 cents, the first toll out of WI into IL (i believe its by guerney) is like 1.50(im pretty sure it was that much) and then when you get off of the tollway its another .50-1.25 depending on the exit, i think it was 1.25 to get off to go to shaumburg the last time i took my wife down to the mall there

sad thing is we have no tolls and our roads are way better
 

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Ya your thinking 294 /tri state I'm talking 90/94/39 by Beloit its a dollar at that booth and 80 on the rest.

There actually used to be one more booth a little south of Guernee but they got rid of it.

Ya I know they were only a tempoarry thing to pay off the contruction until they realized that people need to use the highway and they could scam an extra 40 cents out of millions a day. And cuase rush hour traffic accidents, and BS like that.


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i hate those toll ways. however the oasis things that they have been remodeling for the past few years are pretty cool. when i hop on i only hit 3 plazas and they are all 80 cents. luckly she only have a few more weeks of school so i dont have to go down there anymore. the one just before 83/roosevelt exit is the one i hate most, during construction they had it open to only 2 manual lanes and like 5 ipass lanes. :cuss:
 

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.80 cents is pretty cheap I think, I just drove through Oklahoma and paid 5 tolls one was $1.25 two where $1.50 and 2 where $3.50.

All that money to drive on {expletive}ty roads and put up with a bunch of idiots with OU flags driving 70 in the left lane.

I always thought Oklahoma sucked now I know for sure.

btw, I took I-70 across Illinois and didnt hit any toll roads
 

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294 is the toll road through illinois or it might be 280. cant remember.
 

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ROFL, u counrty guys complainin about 40 cent tolls. i live in the NY metro area, when i go see my friends in queens its $6 dollars for 1 bridge $4 for the other bridge both ways!!! so thats 12$ just in tolls to get there, were talkin about 14 miles between my house and theirs.
 

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were not country guys, the area we are talking about is more or less the Chicago metropolitan area.

but when you have 80 cents every 8 miles, thats BS.

ive driven from Ontario, Florida, and Michigan, and Illinois by far has the worst roads.

the area that the tollways in (for the most part)is Cook County, which is primarily Democratic w/ alot of Mob ties.
So they use the cheapest materials possible so they can keep the Union Road Workers busy rebuilding the same road every 5 years.

why use something thats durable like concrete, when you can replace bituminous pavement every 5 years.
 

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On 2005-11-27 18:07, Mikeg1005 wrote:


All because of the stupid government is soo cheap that they can't raise the price of gas by 5 cents and get rid of these pointless traffic jam causing disasters.
Yeah, cause the entire state should pay extra so you arent inconvenienced ... great idea
 

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On 2005-11-28 13:29, King Nothing wrote:
Yeah, cause the entire state should pay extra so you arent inconvenienced ... great idea

I was waiting for that.

You see honestly I don't mind the fee I have IPass so its all good but Can you explain me how a 60 mile stretch of highway can take over an hour to clear??? Of 2 lane 65mph highway. You know why because its the 5 toll boths on the way that cause massive havoc.

And the worst thing of all is only the northern democratic tree hugger came up with the idea of pay tolls.

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On 2005-11-27 21:41, 85burbanator wrote:
294 is the toll road through illinois or it might be 280. cant remember.

You mean 90/94?? Or do you take 80 to 294 and then get onto 90/94 and go to Wisconsin, missing down town Chciago completely?

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On 2005-11-28 18:12, Mikeg1005 wrote:


I was waiting for that.

You see honestly I don't mind the fee I have IPass so its all good but Can you explain me how a 60 mile stretch of highway can take over an hour to clear??? Of 2 lane 65mph highway. You know why because its the 5 toll boths on the way that cause massive havoc.

And the worst thing of all is only the northern democratic tree hugger came up with the idea of pay tolls.

MIke.
I understand your frustration with the toll booths, but making me pay an extra dollar or two per tank of gas to finance a road that I may use 5 times in my life isnt cool to me. you guys up there should come up with solutions to your problems that dont affect us downstaters. PS, a sixty mile stretch of highway taking an hour = a 60 mph average. I could see it being worse though
 

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Ya I know thats not the most rational solution.

I'm saying it take over an hour sometimes approaching hour and a half. And this is a highway where normally u cruise at 75 mph when not in traffic.

But w/e lol its never gonna change with the ammount of money pay tolls suck in I doubt they willl eliminate them.

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On 2005-11-27 21:35, 1TONHD wrote:
.80 cents is pretty cheap I think, I just drove through Oklahoma and paid 5 tolls one was $1.25 two where $1.50 and 2 where $3.50.

All that money to drive on {expletive}ty roads and put up with a bunch of idiots with OU flags driving 70 in the left lane.

I always thought Oklahoma sucked now I know for sure.
yup our tolls suck and the roads suck worse. Everyone knows when you cross the border because the roads are so much better in Tx. Those tolls also were supposed to eventually go away but they have been there for my whole life lol. I don't have a problem paying the toll if it really was to maintain the road so it wouldn't suck so bad. Sometimes I wonder if they keep the roads sucky so they can keep collecting the cash lol.
 

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On 2005-11-28 20:40, chicnbronco wrote:
yup our tolls suck and the roads suck worse. Everyone knows when you cross the border because the roads are so much better in Tx. Those tolls also were supposed to eventually go away but they have been there for my whole life lol. I don't have a problem paying the toll if it really was to maintain the road so it wouldn't suck so bad. Sometimes I wonder if they keep the roads sucky so they can keep collecting the cash lol.

The roads arent the only thing thats better in Texas


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The plus side to the oklahoma toll roads was 2 of the girls working them were really good looking.
 

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we are starting to get high speed ezpass or ipass for you guys lanes on highways now, dont need to even slow down just fly through at 55.
 

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Just take off your plates and blast through the ipass lanes! By the time you get caught you woulda saved double in tolls anyway. :bigthumb:

J/K...I should not be condoning bad behavior... :bad:
 
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