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This is my first post but I have been cruising the pavementsucks.com forums for awhile. I am in the market for my first diesel and have been researching mostly through this site to help me decide what is right for me and luckly for you this newbie can use the search button. After some reading I have decided a 98 12-valve, quad cab long box is about everything I can ask for in a truck. Now up here in MN these trucks are even harder to find then down south because 95% of these goons can't understand why you would want a diesel. However I have found a few and I have a few questions about the one i'm currently looking at.


Its a 1998 quad cab, 1-ton, quad cab, 4x4, auto with ofcourse the cummins. It has 199,000 miles on it and he is asking $12,500. One of the first things he said when I called however was that he would take $11,000 for it. I have yet to see it but this is what i gathered from him when I called. He is not the original owner so he does not no for sure if the tranny has been replaced but beleaves it has because its strong, shifts well and the tranny fluid is very clean to be a 200k tranny. He fixed the KDP and the seal on the front of the motor that tends to leak on the higher milege motors (if I remember right). The motor starts fine and does not smoke excessively. The power steering pump does not leak, or wine and the truck tracks well down the road. He had some brake work done and it stops nice and straight also the tires are good with 90% of the tread left. All in all the drivetrain sounded to be in good condition. The body has no rust and is in good condition as is the interior although it does have an AC leak and one of the power seat controls does not work. Also it does not have any holes in the bed for a 5th wheel, which i would take as good thing right? Finally the truck is stock except a tool box and bed liner. He said the reason he bought the truck was to tow but soon after getting it he realized the back seat was way to small for for what he needed,I'm guessing he bought a crew cab, and has been trying to sell it since. Now the truck sounds like it is in good condition and I realize these motors are good for double what it has now but what i'm wonder is how many more miles could I hope to get out of this truck befor it starts to nickle and dime me to death. It will not be used for much towing or hauling (did not want a duelie to begin with but this is very close to what I do want just with a few more tires) but hopefully see some bombing and alittle wheeling in its future. So basically.

-How many miles does this truck have left in it?
-Does the price seem right for this truck?
-What are the things I should look, listen and feel for when I go to check it out?

-Also out of curosity what would it take to convert it back it a SRW? Just different rims, and take the wheel spacers off in the front and the fenders in the rear?

Thanks for your help and I apologize about the length of this...
 

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If you can show me someone that can tell what shape your truck is in by reading this crap , I'll show you an insurance agent. :fu:
 

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On 2005-11-30 21:24, weaktruk wrote:
If you can show me someone that can tell what shape your truck is in by reading this crap , I'll show you an insurance agent. :fu:

wtf? :dunno:




Welcome aboard Fool Injected. It's pretty hard to say how much life the truck has left. 200k is alot of miles for a truck...and without knowing the condition of it (service records, what's been replaced, etc) there's a good chance you may be replacing crap constantly after buying. I wouldn't worry about the motor as much, as long as it has been taken care of and proprly maintained. I personally wouldn't pay that much for a truck with that many miles (cummins or not) but they seem to be worth more or less depending on which part of the country you're in.
 

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If you can show me someone that can tell what shape your truck is in by reading this crap , I'll show you an insurance agent.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: I'm already making friends...lmao
 

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On 2005-11-30 21:24, weaktruk wrote:
If you can show me someone that can tell what shape your truck is in by reading this crap , I'll show you an insurance agent. :fu:

you need to ease up.

edit: welcome to PS. Sorry cant help ya with your question.
 

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200,000 miles might not be too bad if you knew FOR SURE the story behind the truck. there are alot of unsertanties to consider. If it was a single owner who took care of the truck or even a cmpany truck with alot of highway miles with regular maintenance it may not be as ify.

I personaly would stay clear of this truck. For one big reason, the uncertainty of the owner. He either doesnt know the history of the truck or he is playing dumb.

The truck is over priced also. I would offer him 7,000-8,000 for it. becaus of the miles and lack of knoledge. If he doesnt go for that keep shoping.
 

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welcome to ps.com the more mn's the better here ya from i'm from wayzata

as for the truck that is too much for a truck that old and that meny miles. also i'll bet my life that the bottom of the doors are rusting out from the mn salt :cuss: when i baught mine 2years ago with 51,500 on it my doors were already shot and mine is a 97. so just look at the inside bottom pinch weld of the door, there may be some plastic/rubber seal there but look behind that and if any sign or rust or bubbeling paint you should beable to talk him down alot because new doors alone are like 700 and 900 apeice for unfinished metal only then you have to get them painted and finished so there is some more. i was quoted 4000+ good luck and good choice i wish i would have held out for a '98 and also a manual (i would if i were you just a better trans if you ask me)
 

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to high... when we were at the Jeep dealer in Burnsville last week buying Angie her Cherokee, a guy traded in his 99 with 189k miles on it, Quad Cab Short box, auto, they gave him 8500 for it!!!

What color is this truck, and where is it? I am in lakeville, so who knows, I might know the owner, I know alot of guys around here.
 

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Mine might be for sale, I will know for sure next week!........I kNOW WHAT MY TRUCK HAS FOR UPGRADES!! :bigthumb:
 

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200k for the engine isn't bad...but the rest of the truck is most likely going to nickel and dime you to death.

For sure the rear will need new bearings as I have yet to see even a D80 that is just a daily driver get much past 200k and still be "tight". Most likely the tranny was rebuilt...autos don't usually last much over 100k behind a CTD. The front wheel bearings are also something to think about as they only have a certain life expectancy too...usually around 200k.

All I can say is look at the truck, see if the owner has maintance records for it showing it was taken good care of during ownership...if it looks good then it probably is...if he can't provide you anything, walk away.

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what the hell are you buyin now?
:rotfl: Lookin at that 98 I was trying to sell you!, I just love the looks of it! black with 99 sport front end, 12-valve with a 5-speed, and a shortbox., I would rather my longbox for all the pullin I do, but, I might be able to pic it up for good $$$.Jason got caught driveing while bared, and they found his old ladies drug parifonalia in the truck! :bad: :slap:
 

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I appreciate the help guys. The price did seem steep even with his first $1500 dollar drop also you guys have basically confirmed my fears of that being just to many miles to be starting off with. Anyways doodah I'd deffiently be interested in your truck if it does look like you will be putting it up for sale.
 

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On 2005-12-01 07:51, Fool Injected wrote:
The price did seem steep even with his first $1500 dollar drop


A seller dropping the price $1500 as soon as you talk to him is a good tip off that it is greatly over priced.

Dropping the cost $1500 dollars really isnt a big deal when it is over priced $5000.

It is just ment to sound good to an overly anxious buyer. Shop around and keep getting oppinions and you will come across a good deal on a truck you will be happy with
 

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NOPE!, NOT GONNA SELL!, JUST GOT TO MUCH INVESTED!! :sorry:
 

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Lookin at that 98 I was trying to sell you!, I just love the looks of it! black with 99 sport front end, 12-valve with a 5-speed, and a shortbox., I would rather my longbox for all the pullin I do, but, I might be able to pic it up for good $$$.Jason got caught driveing while bared, and they

Those are hard to come by!

For sure the rear will need new bearings as I have yet to see even a D80 that is just a daily driver get much past 200k and still be "tight". Most likely the tranny was rebuilt...autos don't usually last much over 100k behind a CTD. The front wheel bearings are also something to think about as they only have a certain life expectancy too...usually around 200k.

Its got to have a rebuit tranny, depending on who rebuit it, it might need it again
 

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i'd say its a $9-10k truck, around here.

up here there was a 01 2500 CTD qcab longbox for $13,000 w/ 158k miles.. i thought that truck was a good price.
 
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