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HELP!! Sport Headlight Conversion......

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I'm installing my Sport Headlights in my 96 Ram right now, and I can't seem to get the housing into position without scratchin the hell outta the housing and the paint on the truck.... do I have to take the front bumper off to get this in there? or am I just missing something and askin a stupid question.... please help ASAP.


--Ryan
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the front bumper needs to be loosened, than you can push it down enough to get the lights past it
On 2005-12-10 13:06, redlinebk wrote:
the front bumper needs to be loosened, than you can push it down enough to get the lights past it

so I've gotta loosen all 6 bolts then? (two on each frame rail and then one each on each of the "side kicker" supports on the ends of the bumper)

--Ryan
Also you will have to cut out part of the fender behind the light so that the new sports lights will fit. On the 94-99 they have to be modified.
It should come out without doing any bumper work, mine did anyway. just needed a little forward tilt and lift it out.
What are you doing for wiring the lights up with ?
Myself I went with this.

http://www.suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=116
I got them installed last night..... I had to loosen up the bumper to get the new ones in there, and I had to cut out a good portion behind the headlight to get them to fit in there just right..... about the only thing I don't like is that the 9004s are in the innermost of the two sockets (9004 inside, 9007 outside, then maker light) which stretches the factory harness out purty good. I guess I'm gonna have to reroute that and see if I can get some slack somewherez. Also, I noticed that Dodge didn't wanna make it easy on us to change the bulbs.... from the looks of things, its almost easier and less of a headache to remove the housing everytime you have to replace a bulb, rather than tryin to bend and twist your hand into the VERY tight spaces they put them in. Anyway..... I got some pictures, gonna post them tomorrow hopefully, and then save up to buy the harness.... $30 ain't bad for the harness, so maybe on the next paycheck..... does anybody have a good wiring diagram on how to wire up the 9007s?? something a little more schematic than Alpha's diagram that he posted in the group buy thread? thanks for your help everybody.


--Ryan :naughty:
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On 2005-12-11 17:10, halo 216 wrote:
IS that just a wire harness for 133?

Ya.. I know it sounds steep, but it`s all plug and play setup.with a relay for each bulb, the setup plugs into your factory harrness so you still have control over on/off and high/low beams.
NEW QUESTION......

For a while I had my 9004s (inside lights) plugged in b/c that's what my stock housing used for lights, but I then found out that on the Sports, the "dim" or outside lights are the 9007s so I plugged those in to use as the dims lights, well when I did that, my Bright Light indicator on the dash won't go off, ever, and also, when the 9007's are in the dim position (only one filament on), they are VERY yellow, and VERY dim. and when they're in the bright position (both filaments lit) they're very bright and white colored. is this normal? do I just need to get used to my dim lights being very yellow and sucky? thanks for any help.

--Ryan
On 2005-12-10 23:46, Robert97dodge wrote:
Also you will have to cut out part of the fender behind the light so that the new sports lights will fit. On the 94-99 they have to be modified.
Will they fit on 01's without modification? I don't like the idea of doing that but if I can't get the dealer to replace my headlights I may go with sports I don't know.
On 2005-12-12 14:40, VABLKRAM wrote:

Ya.. I know it sounds steep, but it`s all plug and play setup.with a relay for each bulb, the setup plugs into your factory harrness so you still have control over on/off and high/low beams.
So do you have to buy 2 of those to make it work or do both come with it for $133?
On 2006-01-18 21:12, Lifted94XLT wrote:
NEW QUESTION......

For a while I had my 9004s (inside lights) plugged in b/c that's what my stock housing used for lights, but I then found out that on the Sports, the "dim" or outside lights are the 9007s so I plugged those in to use as the dims lights, well when I did that, my Bright Light indicator on the dash won't go off, ever, and also, when the 9007's are in the dim position (only one filament on), they are VERY yellow, and VERY dim. and when they're in the bright position (both filaments lit) they're very bright and white colored. is this normal? do I just need to get used to my dim lights being very yellow and sucky? thanks for any help.

--Ryan

anybody??
the socket for the 9007 bulb has a different wire configuration... Should be LOW/GROUND/HIGH from left to right looking at the back of a 9007 bulb. hope this helps!
On 2006-01-20 06:29, Alphacowboy wrote:
the socket for the 9007 bulb has a different wire configuration... Should be LOW/GROUND/HIGH from left to right looking at the back of a 9007 bulb. hope this helps!

so I'm gonna have to swap the wires on my factory plug then? (sorry for the stupid question, just wanna be positive in what I'm doin b/c I start messing with the factory stuff

--Ryan
On 2006-01-18 21:17, Hometheaterman wrote:
So do you have to buy 2 of those to make it work or do both come with it for $133?

That will cover everything you need.


I did see a setup through Summit racing made by Painless wiring for about half the price.
I do not know of anybody who has bought this setup.
http://www.painlesswiring.com/assets/pdf_catalog/Catalog_pg29.pdf
If its a female to male wiring harness than sounds easy. But I wounder if it might dim the lights a little too much. Im afraid that it would be too dim and then Im screwed because I live where street lights still arent invented. Out in the middle of nowhere. My town is a pass by town to get to the beach. Its pitch black and foggy at nite. It like those scary hick movies you see for about 7 bucks at a movie theater.
I'm curious: for those of us that bought the sport lights on the group buy, think about the harness. I would think that purchasing another harness from them and shortening it to work on the passenger side, you would have the same thing as the $133 harness listed above. What do you guys think? This would even be better for the ones that run dual batteries (as I plan to do now) the power would be offloaded from the switch for all four lights and if I remember right the harness from the group buy was only $20something.
Here is how the setup works.
There is 1 relay of each bulb, There is 2 hot wires that go to the battery/ 2 ground wires, The new harrness plugs right into the factory harrness then the new harrness will have a plug in for each bulb. With this setup you will run all 4 lights on low beam as well as high beam, Because both of the bulbs (9004 and 9007) are a duel filament bulb, The one bad thing about this setup is that everybody thinks you are running the high beams and start throwing there high beams at you, till you hit yours..
Anyway I really think this was the best mod for the $$$ That I have done to my truck. Oh yea.. The night driving is a hell of alot better.
On 2006-01-21 16:50, VABLKRAM wrote:
Here is how the setup works.
There is 1 relay of each bulb, There is 2 hot wires that go to the battery/ 2 ground wires, The new harrness plugs right into the factory harrness then the new harrness will have a plug in for each bulb. With this setup you will run all 4 lights on low beam as well as high beam, Because both of the bulbs (9004 and 9007) are a duel filament bulb, The one bad thing about this setup is that everybody thinks you are running the high beams and start throwing there high beams at you, till you hit yours..
Anyway I really think this was the best mod for the $$$ That I have done to my truck. Oh yea.. The night driving is a hell of alot better.

Right, the thing is though, I believe if you purchase two of the $20+ harnesses from the group buy, you have the same thing that the $133 one is!
On 2006-01-20 14:06, Lifted94XLT wrote:


so I'm gonna have to swap the wires on my factory plug then? (sorry for the stupid question, just wanna be positive in what I'm doin b/c I start messing with the factory stuff

--Ryan

anybody?? I wanna make sure I'm right so I don't fawk something up.
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