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Belly Pan Gasket Repair w/ Pics

Discussion in 'Dodge 4x4' started by Glenshadow, May 20, 2003.

  1. Glenshadow

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    I thought I would post a follow up on my recent surgery. I had been suffering from " Barely able to get out of my own way syndrom". Huge dead spots in my acceleration and oil that just disappeared on me every few hundred miles. :cuss:



    Well I finally got around to fixing it. First thing you will notice when the belly pan gasket has gone is a very oily throttle body !



    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3539.JPG[/img]



    After I got this sucker off I cleaned her up and went along to pulling the intake manifold. After removing it and checking it out.. here is what I found... one really trashed gasket that has been the bane of my trucks existance lately.



    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3558.JPG[/img]

    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3559.JPG[/img]

    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3560.JPG[/img]



    This gasket being shot will allow your oil to go where it doesn't rightfully belong.... all over !



    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3562.JPG[/img]

    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3561.JPG[/img]

    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3563.JPG[/img]



    After cleaning up the Exxon Valdez like mess... I got ready to put on the new gasket which Chrysler has so thoughtfully redesigned. It is now metal instead of normal gasket material.



    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3566.JPG[/img]



    After putting this sucker on (easiest part of whole process), I decided to check out my plugs which I suspected of being oil fouled. BOY was I in for a suprise ! :eyecrazy:



    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3548.JPG[/img]

    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3549.JPG[/img]



    I am suprised my truck even started. I had ash deposits so bad.. I thought my electrode of plug was actually missing.... Gotta give the Denso's some credit... I haven't seen many plugs this jacked up and still fire consistantly.... (though miracles never cease).



    My buddy at local shop warrantied my Denso's for me.. even as bad as they were... so I really got hooked up there.



    Also did cap and rotor while I was in there.. and redid all my electrical stuff with electrical grease to keep that muddy water I often find myself in.. outta my shiznit !





    After I got it all back together... shot the can of combustion chamber cleaner down the throttle body (as directed on back of can) and produced the James Bond Ram.... I used 2 cans of the Mopar Combustion Chamber cleaner and followed the directions on the back of can. With engine running you empty a can down the trottle body and then turn the engine off. Let sit for amount of time specified on the can and repeat process with second can.



    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3586.JPG[/img]



    Let me tell you.. after 10 hours.. I am SO happy again... I got my git up and go back... I can hardly keep outta the throttle ! :naughty:



    And naturally.... I had to hit the trails too !

    [img=500x375]http://www.truckporn.com/pics/albums/Technical/Bellypan-repair/DCP_3610.JPG[/img] :bigthumb:



    Overall... I can say I would really love to Class Action Chrysler for such {expletive}ty design, then telling me that since I lifted my truck, that is the problem.. not a defect in their design !

    :twak:



    Whole series of pics can be found here:

    http://www.truckporn.com/pics/thumbnails.php?album=237



    And for reference.. I used this TSB page:

    http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2000/09-05-00.htm

    This page provides part numbers for a OEM type repair, as well as Toque specs.



    Ordered all the parts they mentioned here and needed nothing else really, though I did opt to replace my 195 thermostat with a 180 while I was at it.





    Here are the links to popular remedies for the above problem which will occur again with the Magnum motors. My recommendation is to either replace the stock pan with a Hughes Pan, or nix the pan all together and put a M-1 intake on there.



    Hughes pan - $81: http://www.hughesengines.com/partDetail.asp?partID=11698





    And for the M-1 Intake I got it here - $375: http://www.southeastperformance.com



    M1 - EGR Version, Part# P5007398AB

    M1 - Non-EGR Version, Part# P5007852 ('96-up)



    Use the link on PS.com to help Jason out, and if you call them to buy it, let them know Jason and PS.com sent ya ! :bigthumb:
     

  2. TopperHarley

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    Good job Glen! This should be added to the vehicle tech section as well. I tottaly agree with you as far as this being a piss poor designe. I think it is pinfully obvious that a metel gasket was needed in the first place. I had the same problem and didn't do it myself. So it was pretty big money. Dodge has changed many gaskets for proly the same reason, they are inferior and unreliable. Anyway, good job. :bigthumb:
     

  3. Archer

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    Looks like I may be on the to-do list for me too. I'm starting to see some deposits and oil down there. ARRRGGGHHHH
     
  4. 4wDakota

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    Good job Glen. I must say you should have thrown on the M1 and a new 50mm TB. (Looking down at my empty wallet....maybe not :roll: ) Then you would have had a big smile :p:
     
  5. RatherBeMuddin

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    Nice Job! And thanks for the schooling. I just ordered an aluminium belly pan from Hughes engines yesterday, so this will be my next project. By the way, how long did it end up taking you?
     
  6. Mr Joe

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    Nice presentation.. :bigthumb:



    I'm afraid to check mine.... :baby:
     
  7. Madd Ramm

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    Don't worry, you don't need to check it. It is the one and only thing that Dodge can guarantee....that those things will blow out. :smash:
     
  8. BigGreenMonster

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    good job gleen but when i fix mine it is gonna be for good.



    i encourage anyone to follow.



    [img=350x233]http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/ram/in-mpist.jpg[/img]



    and since you are almost there why not go ahead and...



    [img=300x150]http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/ram/rthead.jpg[/img]



    and



    [img=300x224]http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/ram/cam-roller.jpg[/img]



    and then ya gatta [img=302x299]http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/ram/rockerset.jpg[/img]



    and some for a little bling bling [img=240x192]http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/ram/magnumcover.png[/img]
     
  9. surfram

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    I still have the same champion double platinums in from before my gasket was repaired. Do you think those deposits would burn off after a while once the gasket was fixed? They are only 2 years old and I don't feel like replacing them all again.
     
  10. Biginuf

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    good pics glenny!
     
  11. Glenshadow

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    Yeah... I woulda done the M1 and a better throttle body... but there is a small thing that holds me back... give ya a hint.... you use it to buy stuff....

    :silly:



    I do plan on that in the long run, and roller rockers... etc..etc... but I got's other things I need to do first.. so repair was my only option for now.



    Realistically it took me 9 hours.. I had to wait an hour for my cousin and his buddy to run out to shop to get inch pound torque wrench... while they were at shop they piced up scan tool which just basically verified there were no other problems creeping up on me. :D:



    I would recommend plug replacement... they were most likely oil fouled during your belly pan episodes...



    I don't think ash deposits will burn off... they are more like concrete deposits.... :eyecrazy:
     
  12. Gecko1739

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    Where can i get a plenum pan gasket for my 98 ram 1500 with the 5.9L?
     
  13. Ruppel

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    i believe hughes makes one. i have the website, just need to find it. if you really want to do it right go for the M1 b/c if you ask glen now, his aftermarket gasket blew too i believe.
     
  14. Jambbii

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    Dumb question, what is the purpose of that pan? I work on old school mopars and they never had anything like that.
     
  15. Ruppel

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    the purpose of that pan is to bend you over and have fun. they make money on service and parts. all manufactures do it.
     
  16. Glenshadow

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    yeah... buy the M-1 and save yerself the headache.



    been through 3 gaskets now and it is bad again... shoulda never sold my M-1.. but I had no choice.. now just awaiting $ to get another.
     
  17. Ruppel

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    i have one that will be for sale if hotchilleram doesn't want it in 9 days.
     
  18. Glenshadow

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    Bump this for folks that are doing the repair lately...



    I corrected all the pics. :D:
     
  19. USMCMP5811

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    Nice write up Glenny :bigthumb:





    When that belly pan gasket goes, ever have a problem with a #7 cylinder misfire? I keep getting on for some reason and it's random, yet can't track it down.
     
  20. Black97Sport

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    Great pics man....I know mine needs done like now.....I have been putting it off way to long :bs:
     

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