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rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
11-20-2009, 05:44 PM (This post was last modified: 11-20-2009 05:46 PM by Teradoc.)
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rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
I just rebuilt the engine on my '99 Dodge manual 5.2l ram 1500, started it for the first time tonight.

Heres the details on the work done to it.

Swapped from a '99 5.2 to the rebuilt '99 5.9

MSD Ignition
8.5mm Plug Wires
480 lift cam
jba headers
new lifters(cant remember the brand off the top of my head)
valve springs
the reinforced mopar heads
160 degree thermostat
Cat back flowmaster exhaust
360 flywheel
High flow oil pump
New water pump
New Timing Chain


I got the engine from a salvage yard, and did all the work myself, it starts, it runs, but it runs really rough, theres kind of a popping sound, and theres a lot of valve train noise. I ran it up for a few minutes, and it was dumping a lot of raw fuel into the exhaust.

I primed the oil pump, oiled the valve train, checked the firing order, and I have compression, and oil pressure.

What am I forgetting? I want this working tonight!




1999 Ram 1500 SLT
360(Kinda), 33's, Magnaflow Cat, Flowmaster, 3" pipes, K&N, JBL Headers. Dane 60/60 with 4.11's, 3" skyjacker coils.

Next is 4-link rear, airbags, custom bed... And a supercharger.
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11-20-2009, 05:45 PM
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
Did you change the computer????

Rick




Tow Rig - 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD - 5.9L Bored .20 Over, Block Decked .10, 12v Headgasket .20 Over, II PhatShaft 62/14, Edge HOT JUICE, Edge Jammers 4's, HD Tranny, Holley Blue Fuel Pump, 4" Turbo Back Exhaust with 7" Single Stack, BHAF...

Rock Rig - 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee Chop Top - 7" Lift, 36x12.50x16 TSL Swampers, Dana 44 HP and Dana 60 Spooled with 5.13's, Leaf Spring Conversion in the Rear.

Family Ride - 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4, 2" Lift, 265/70/16s on JK Rims.
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11-20-2009, 05:48 PM (This post was last modified: 11-20-2009 05:53 PM by Teradoc.)
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
(11-20-2009 05:45 PM)RamSport59 Wrote:  Did you change the computer????

Rick

Yes, I have both computers, I've swapped them back and forth, no luck.

I'll try again, I just pulled the distributor, and made sure the gear was aligned correctly, it was one tooth off, but there is no difference, and havent swapped back to the 5.9 computer.
swapped computers, no difference




1999 Ram 1500 SLT
360(Kinda), 33's, Magnaflow Cat, Flowmaster, 3" pipes, K&N, JBL Headers. Dane 60/60 with 4.11's, 3" skyjacker coils.

Next is 4-link rear, airbags, custom bed... And a supercharger.
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11-20-2009, 05:56 PM
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
Sounds to me like Timing or a Computer issue.

Are you setting the timing the old school way or with a DRB Scan Tool and Sync'n the distributer?

Rick




Tow Rig - 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD - 5.9L Bored .20 Over, Block Decked .10, 12v Headgasket .20 Over, II PhatShaft 62/14, Edge HOT JUICE, Edge Jammers 4's, HD Tranny, Holley Blue Fuel Pump, 4" Turbo Back Exhaust with 7" Single Stack, BHAF...

Rock Rig - 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee Chop Top - 7" Lift, 36x12.50x16 TSL Swampers, Dana 44 HP and Dana 60 Spooled with 5.13's, Leaf Spring Conversion in the Rear.

Family Ride - 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4, 2" Lift, 265/70/16s on JK Rims.
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11-20-2009, 05:57 PM (This post was last modified: 11-20-2009 06:01 PM by Teradoc.)
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
Im thinking its a timing issue... thats all I have.

It starts up instantly, no cranking.

But it's feeling like its not firing on all cylinders.
Isn't the timing computer controlled?

Can I even set it the old fashioned way?

I messed with rotating the distributor before I moved the gear.

After moving the gear a tooth, I can advance it a lot farther, should I try that again?




1999 Ram 1500 SLT
360(Kinda), 33's, Magnaflow Cat, Flowmaster, 3" pipes, K&N, JBL Headers. Dane 60/60 with 4.11's, 3" skyjacker coils.

Next is 4-link rear, airbags, custom bed... And a supercharger.
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11-20-2009, 06:06 PM
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
You can get it close with the old way. but the correct way is to hook up a scanner that will show the "sync" and set it.

Rick




Tow Rig - 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD - 5.9L Bored .20 Over, Block Decked .10, 12v Headgasket .20 Over, II PhatShaft 62/14, Edge HOT JUICE, Edge Jammers 4's, HD Tranny, Holley Blue Fuel Pump, 4" Turbo Back Exhaust with 7" Single Stack, BHAF...

Rock Rig - 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee Chop Top - 7" Lift, 36x12.50x16 TSL Swampers, Dana 44 HP and Dana 60 Spooled with 5.13's, Leaf Spring Conversion in the Rear.

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11-20-2009, 06:13 PM (This post was last modified: 11-20-2009 06:26 PM by Teradoc.)
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
(11-20-2009 06:06 PM)RamSport59 Wrote:  You can get it close with the old way. but the correct way is to hook up a scanner that will show the "sync" and set it.

Rick

Ok, well I dont have a scanner, so I'm going to adjust it by hand, and see what happens
ok, timings on, but erratic, it shows dead on part of the time, but jumps, 5-15 degrees.

Could it be the crankshaft position sensor?

I'm using the one off the 5.2, but the mount broke, so I epoxied it, and put it back.




1999 Ram 1500 SLT
360(Kinda), 33's, Magnaflow Cat, Flowmaster, 3" pipes, K&N, JBL Headers. Dane 60/60 with 4.11's, 3" skyjacker coils.

Next is 4-link rear, airbags, custom bed... And a supercharger.
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11-20-2009, 08:43 PM (This post was last modified: 11-20-2009 08:44 PM by Teradoc.)
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
new position sensor, no change.
I need ideas, im stuck, and the GF is mad at me!




1999 Ram 1500 SLT
360(Kinda), 33's, Magnaflow Cat, Flowmaster, 3" pipes, K&N, JBL Headers. Dane 60/60 with 4.11's, 3" skyjacker coils.

Next is 4-link rear, airbags, custom bed... And a supercharger.
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11-20-2009, 09:10 PM
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
Like Rick said, you'll need to hook up a DRB scan tool and get the fuel sync right. The comp controls the timing, turning the dist. sets the fuel sync.




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11-21-2009, 01:03 AM
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RE: rebuilt dodge 5.9 running terrible HELP
got it running Smile

I'm a dumb guy lol

Wont get into details, but yeah, I screwed up, and took 2 days fixing somthing, that would of took 5 minutes to do right the first time.

Just need to get the computer flashed now, get the timing synced, and track down a few little issues.




1999 Ram 1500 SLT
360(Kinda), 33's, Magnaflow Cat, Flowmaster, 3" pipes, K&N, JBL Headers. Dane 60/60 with 4.11's, 3" skyjacker coils.

Next is 4-link rear, airbags, custom bed... And a supercharger.
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