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first gen trans swap?  
01-16-2009, 10:00 AM
Post: #1
 
this is just an idea but i was thinking
about swaping the np435 thats in my 90 1/2ton
for a nv4500 from a 94+ 5.2
anyone done this?
im just wondering if the nv4500 would mate right up
cus if it wont i wont bother




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01-18-2009, 12:41 PM
Post: #2
 
I have been told that the old 727 will bolt up to my 96 360 you just have to find the computer for the engine that was out of a manual trans

I have not tried this but have been told this a few times




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01-18-2009, 12:51 PM
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Quote:On 2009-01-18 11:41, redjosh wrote:
I have been told that the old 727 will bolt up to my 96 360 you just have to find the computer for the engine that was out of a manual trans

I have not tried this but have been told this a few times

WTF does that have to do with him swapping an over drive manual 5 speed in his truck?




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01-18-2009, 12:51 PM
Post: #4
 
with the right bell housing it will bolt up

i have got a 2000 trans bolted to 2 92 engine just have to find the right bell




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01-18-2009, 09:58 PM
Post: #5
 
baja it has to do with that wierd sh&t fits that you may not know will

so its worth looking in too and shut up cause you gave 0 info that helped you post [censored]




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<BR>
<BR>96 ram on rockwells and 50" tires
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<BR>if you don't have body damage you don't really wheel

try it you might make it
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BR>D.A.C. need a lil time off for bad behavior
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01-21-2009, 10:07 AM
Post: #6
 
wait a sec one question the 5speed 2nd gen
5.2s 5.9s
are they nv 3500 or nv4500ld?

because its those trucks that gave me the idea
and im thinking that a 94+5.9 would be the same bolt pattern as my 1990 5.9




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01-21-2009, 10:08 AM
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red josh ur 96 is it a 5.9




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01-21-2009, 11:50 AM
Post: #8
 
Quote:On 2009-01-21 09:07, ramboy1990 wrote:
wait a sec one question the 5speed 2nd gen
5.2s 5.9s
are they nv 3500 or nv4500ld?

because its those trucks that gave me the idea
and im thinking that a 94+5.9 would be the same bolt pattern as my 1990 5.9
since I need to post tech cuz im a post [censored],

the 5.2's had teh 3500 and the 5.9's had the 4500.




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01-21-2009, 01:07 PM
Post: #9
 
yes my 96 is a 5.9 but only for another month then i will have my 440 i will try and bolt the 727 to 5.9 just to see if what i have been told is rite or not




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<BR>
<BR>96 ram on rockwells and 50" tires
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<BR>if you don't have body damage you don't really wheel

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BR>D.A.C. need a lil time off for bad behavior
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01-21-2009, 01:12 PM
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Yes, you really should post some tech you post whoring b*tch!



In terms of purely "unbolt this one and bolt that one back in its place," the answer is no.

An NV4500 is a few inches longer in case length than an NP435. I don't know about bellhousing depth, but I can't believe a NV4500 bell is appreciably shallower than one for a NP435.

Beyond that, I believe the output shafts are different. I may be wrong. I think the NV4500 has a 1-1/2", 29 spline output shaft whereas the NP435 will have either a 28 split output or a 32 spline out. Perhaps somebody more experienced in vintage Mopar "stuff" can correct me or add to what I've typed. So, without some fashion of a conversion tailhousing AND a transmission output shaft to t-case input shaft conversion "spud", it's not going to be a bolt-in swap. I would have to think some crossmember modifications would be required, as well, and probably driveshaft modifications two.




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