Whiplash Suspension problems

[GSXRMan717]

hi guys new to the forum very excitied, I have a 2001 dodge ram sport 1500 and I bought the 10" whiplash kit, I am in the process of installing and am having problem with the arms in the front, my question is where do they mount. The so called TECH men said to mount the upper link arm to the lower stock link arm location. The problem is that this is impossible to do the arm is about 2 feet two long. I think the arms are either wrong or it must mount back on the frame. My question is has anyone used this kit and do you have pictures. I am doing this with my father and we are working it out but any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any type of help that can be given

[WAR WAGON]

You have a 2 short, and 2 long arms in the Whiplash kit. The shorter of the two, mounts at the lower stock location (frame), and at the upper location on the axle. The two longer arms mount further back on the frame (arround mid door), and at the bottom axle mount.

[Alphacowboy]

welcome to the site.

Now, just to warn you, Whiplash kits are not to well praised here, as they usually are used on show trucks and are not to well known for thier trail worthiness. Not to bust your bubble or nothing, but in all honesty, if you can return the kit, I would. Research here for dependable lift systems on this site, and you will get a MUCH better lift and also somthing that is definately trail worthy and also road worthy!

[GSXRMan717]

I agree that is what whiplash said but the arms they sent me there is no way that one can mount where the stock location was because of the fact that they truck would be almost strati up in order to fit there I can post pics I imagine they might have sent me the wrong kit, the reason I wanted such a big lift is that I have bought 44 in trxuses and mounted them on 20X10 and I need to clear them i was going to add a spacer and a body lift I was looking for anyone that had installed a whiplash and mabyse see if they had any pics thanks for the help

[PunisheR]

Ive installed 1 whiplash kit at my shop.. Total nightmare.. I had to fab a bunch of parts to work.. But he insisted on that kit.. lol. cost him an arm and a leg for me to install. They are very well known for sending the wrong {expletive}, I can tell you that.. But at the same time, you could have long arms, and for a 10"+ lift, that is smart, otherwise, death wobble will creep up on you. Look for the mounting brackets to mount on the frame, if none, then they need to send you some.

I have 11"s of lift on my truck.. Ran those 40" trxus tires.. I had to have long arms to achieve less angle on the axel when under flex, and under load. If your going to go that large, which you are. Do it the correct way.. Even if they tell you to use the stock lower control arm bracket. That is one HELL of an angle, and you will experience death wobble.

BTW, if you are installing a 2 inch spacer in front, make sure your control arms are A. adjustable for the additional lift, or B. Dont mount the control arms untill your spacer is in, if you stuff a spacer under a pre-existing lift, you are asking for trouble with alignment woes, and death wobble. Take it from me, I do this alot. also, watch your trackbar, you will need to have an adjustable track bar to use the 2" spacer as well, the drop brackets just dont do enough for that, it will push the axel in one direction, not good..

Whiplash is great for street queens, and mall dogs, other than that, if you decided to take it off road, you will be hurting, and bending things in half.

also, im surprised no-one mentioned this, or whiplash (Not that they care) didnt mention this.. 44" trxus tires, on a stock 1500 axel? You are going to have issues in the long run. Those tires are well over 125lbs a piece, hit a curb to hard, and youll snap the long side in 2.

You will also need 1-ton or thuren X-over stearing, your stock TREs will develope play quick with 44s causing slop, and deathwobble, a actual adjustable track-bar, not a drop bracket such as thuren or DT, a larger stearing gearbox such as the dodge 3500 OEM or Hydro a$$ist, or PSC. Gears as well, 4.11, 4.56, 4.88.... Tranny will die shortly without gears, and will die with gears, but not as fast.

Remember to watch your driveshaft angles as well, driveline vibration sucks a$$. You will either need to index ur T-case, or get a high angle driveshafts, such as a tom woods.

I hope they gave you an extreme drop pitman arm, otherwise your drag link will be beggin for mercy.

Im not trying to bash you in any way.. Im just very blunt, and honest, I dont want you to have any surprises. Good luck with your truck.

Your list..

-Check angles of control arms
-Check track bar, get a adjustable track bar like a thuren, or a DT if you have a drop bracket.
-Make sure control arms are adjustable for your 2" spacer, if not, wait to install arms, or temperarly tach them on.
-If they didnt get you long arms, get them, angles are going to be way to steep with 10" of lift
-Check driveshaft angles after lift
-Check Front shaft for binding
-Check Alignment after lift



-jordan

[GSXRMan717]

Jordan thanks so much for your help, i just want to make sure it was ok to mount both links on the frame, also how else can i acheive the lift to clear 44"s without the 10" I am open to suggestions

Thanks alot Brody

[dodgethis12]

Quote:On 2006-05-19 05:43, GSXRMan717 wrote:
Jordan thanks so much for your help, i just want to make sure it was ok to mount both links on the frame, also how else can i acheive the lift to clear 44"s without the 10" I am open to suggestions

Thanks alot Brody

1. Whiplash is junk. You'd be better off with a 7" skyjacker or a full throttle kit for that matter.

2. To mount the arms you need frame backets on each side. There should be 4 frame brackets total.

3. You will never clear 44's with 10" of lift.

4. You cant add a spacer unless you got full coils. Standart whiplash 10" kits come with 5" spacers and 5" coils.

6. Send back the whiplash kit or sell it on ebay.

then buy:
rockreadyguy longarms built to your length for amount of lift

98-99 2500 HD steering

extreme drop pitman

thuren fab track bar

7" skyjacker gas coils and 3" spacers

3" body lift

Rockreadyguy shackle flip

1" zero rate

3-4" add a leaf

any shocks you choose.

This will give 13-14" the best and least expensive way possible and put you borderline for clearing a 44x21 tire.

[GSXRMan717]

I got 10 in coils I paid extra for them but I apprecitae the options rock ready

[dod]

[GSXRMan717]

thanks so much for the pics how did your lift work out were you satisfied with it