SAS Conversion on a 97 1500////Update 2/17/08 With pics

[PunisheR]

We have a project truck we are building starting monday, we are using a chevy 1997 1500..

We are going to use the Sky manufacturing kit.

Now,

Heres the different side of this, we are using dana 60s out of a dodge ram 2500 from the mid-late 80s, with 30k on them.

We are going to use a different transfer case, and a flip plate for the conversion, since the transfer case is sitting on the passanger side, not the driver side.

looking and researching, I havent found anyone that has used these axels, and done this.

The only concerns I have are:

The front axel has a 36" outer to outer perch. Would this work with skys kit?

U-Joints, do they make a conversion u-joint for this setup, or does it not need one?

This isnt a traditional setup, so im just playing my angles, and thinking this out before we get started.

-JOrdan

[outalne94z71]

the axle is fine the measurement is center to center on the perches, the correct ford axle is 32" on center just like the chevy d60, the dodge is like 1/2" difference

the d60 uses a 1330 joint so depending on the shaft you may need the 1310/1330 conversion joint that was used stock on the 77 and earlier f250 highboy

the rear 60 could have either a 1330 or a 1350 joint and neither one of those is the same as the stock joint used on the 88-98 trucks, you will need to build a shaft


thinking about it you will need a different front shaft anyway with the new t-case, the stock 88-98 would never work anyhow since its not a double cardan and can't flex that far


what is this flip plate you are talking about?

[PunisheR]

Quote:On 2007-12-09 18:55, outalne94z71 wrote:
the axle is fine the measurement is center to center on the perches, the correct ford axle is 32" on center just like the chevy d60, the dodge is like 1/2" difference

the d60 uses a 1330 joint so depending on the shaft you may need the 1310/1330 conversion joint that was used stock on the 77 and earlier f250 highboy

the rear 60 could have either a 1330 or a 1350 joint and neither one of those is the same as the stock joint used on the 88-98 trucks, you will need to build a shaft


thinking about it you will need a different front shaft anyway with the new t-case, the stock 88-98 would never work anyhow since its not a double cardan and can't flex that far


what is this flip plate you are talking about?

ok awesome, I figured it would, but Im looking for opinions..

I call it a flip plate, its like a giant indexing ring I guess you could say, it takes the transfer case and flips it from drivers side drive to passanger side drive, so I can run the D60 dodge axel.

We just finished rebuilding the front axel, with only 30k, it was in good shape, now we are prepping for 5.12 gears, it has factory 4.56 which I have never seen. The truck had a tow/plow package on it.

After thinking about this, I am going to be building custom drive-shafts for this animal, so the universal question was retarded...

Plans are for this to be at about 15-18"s including the Sky hanger kit, and on 44s.. mainly for a cool shop project for one of my guys.. Should be fun. going to be built for a driver, and a occasional off-roader. He has a chevy on 15"s and on 46 V-Treads, thing is nuts, that is his woods truck.

im stoked, because all these other guys/shops are sliding D44 6 lugs under these things, which is cool, but noone is really using a flipped D60.. Just something that is different if you ask me.

Pics, and build thread will be up.

-Jordan

[outalne94z71]

don't flip the t-case, it has a oil pump and if you flip it the pickup for the oil pump won't be flat, you need a 241 t-case from a 88-91 suburban

actually with that much lift you will need a divorced case

[PunisheR]

We are using a 241..

Good call though.. I forgot.. We may use a Divorced Tcase, or go a little less lift, I totally forgot, the truck allready has a body lift.

-Jordan

[MaddogZ71]

You will also either need a new crossmember or a clocking ring to clock a p-drop t-case up. In the stock location the driveshaft will come out right where the stock crossmember is.

[outalne94z71]

Quote:On 2007-12-10 13:54, PunisheR wrote:
We are using a 241..

Good call though.. I forgot.. We may use a Divorced Tcase, or go a little less lift, I totally forgot, the truck allready has a body lift.

-Jordan

you can only go about 10" lift with a regular double cardan and a highpinion axle and the stock 241 before it starts to get binding issues

so your options are divorced case, a high dollar shaft , less lift or rotate the pumpkin, or you may need a combination of the rotate and the highangle shaft to get it to work with the low pinion axle

[MaddogZ71]

Quote:On 2007-12-10 14:55, outalne94z71 wrote:


you can only go about 10" lift with a regular double cardan and a highpinion axle and the stock 241 before it starts to get binding issues

so your options are divorced case, a high dollar shaft , less lift or rotate the pumpkin, or you may need a combination of the rotate and the highangle shaft to get it to work with the low pinion axle

What do you consider "regular"?

My 1310 CV cost me $400 and was rated for an angle up to 24 degrees, which I increased greatly by grinding it.

[PunisheR]

Its all in the works..

Im with cj on that one, the front D-shafts can be had for 400.00 with a huge angle on them if needed.

-Jordan

[outalne94z71]

Quote:On 2007-12-10 16:40, The Ultimate Maddog wrote:


What do you consider "regular"?

My 1310 CV cost me $400 and was rated for an angle up to 24 degrees, which I increased greatly by grinding it.

i mean regular by its a stock gm double cardan joint, not one of those highangle units

and a 1310 is not nearly strong enough, id shear that in half pretty easily with my 40's and 5:13's